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Talkin' Hooters

It's been five months since Hooters opened in Rohnert Park. Has your opinion changed of the restaurant?

 

The hoot heard around Rohnert Park took place on Jan. 30, when the popular restaurant chain Hooters - known for its, ahem, wings, and the ladies who serve them -- opened up shop in RP. 

Ever since Rohnert Park Patch , the pages of the Patch have been filled with colorful commentary both in favor of Hooters and not.

Recently, Hooters sponsored a local girls' T-ball team and one parent refused to let her child wear her normal jersey for team photos because she did not want a photo of her child wearing something with the visible Hooters name.

The restaurant makes no bones about the manner in which its female employees dress and has branded itself "delightfully tacky, yet unrefined."

Now that Hooters has been serving wings, cold beers and has given something more to gaze at than just sporting events for about five months, we put the question to the users of Rohnert Park Patch.

Have you visited the restaurant and if so, what is your impression?

Will you ever step foot in Hooters and if not, then why?

Did some of Rohnert Park's population make a big deal out of nothing?

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pdf July 09, 2012 at 04:59 PM
You won't see me there and even my husband has no desire to go to a restaurant that publicly humiliates women!
Lilly July 09, 2012 at 05:56 PM
I will never set foot in a Hooters for the same reason.
pdf July 09, 2012 at 07:47 PM
As I ve already mentioned, if you read my post, I would NEVER step foot in there. I think it's degrading and humiliating. I understand that these "women" choose to work there. Pathetic statement for all women! We are not sex toys and it's an abomination to young girls as "role models." PLEASE! Go to the Playboy Club to satisfy your curiosity.
Lilly July 09, 2012 at 07:52 PM
I agree pdf. I don't know if she's talking to me, there's no "pad" in my name.
Brandon Christmann July 09, 2012 at 07:59 PM
Unless I'm aware of some specific event or scandal involving this restaurant or the chain as a whole, I have to agree with Janette. The serving staff at a Hooter's do not sign on under the impression they will wear sweaters - Hooters is a world famous restaurant and its 'charms' are the major point. If a girl is willing to pursue employment there, she knows perfectly well before ever walking in what she will be wearing and that she will be ogled. Many women are perfectly comfortable with this for the wages/tips they receive, and that's their decision to make. I should be clear, don't think of any of this is saying that I think you should go to Hooters. You are comfortable with what you are comfortable with, and that's your right, but don't claim something that isn't true to justify it.
Brandon Christmann July 09, 2012 at 08:00 PM
Unless I'm not aware*
pdf July 09, 2012 at 08:43 PM
Yeah for choices. I agree. I just think that those choices need to be revisited on priorities. I have no problem with openness, etc. I am far from a prude. My opinion is that Hooters, which by the way is a completely derogatory word for "breasts," is completely degrading women. Period.
Brandon Christmann July 09, 2012 at 08:53 PM
Priorities are a lovely thing to have control over. It's a wonderful situation when you can choose what you morally agree with over something like making more money, but I somewhat doubt a server at Hooters is in the position that 'less money' simply means 'less shopping trips each month.' I've known many servers (though none that have worked at Hooters), and with the minimum wage for tip-based jobs and the job market in general, it may be that the choice is between being morally upright, and paying rent that month. In such a position, being a role model comes second, or possibly third or fourth, to making ends meet. As to role models really, I would argue that those responsible for young, impressionable girls are more at fault for taking their child/sister/what have you to a Hooters restaurant. It's not as though any young women who know the server in question need know the specifics of their work. 'Oh, I'm a waitress, sweetie,' is all that need be said to a child. As to it being derogatory, I must disagree. It is absolutely a crude term, but i don't view it as derogatory, just as I don't view Hooters as degrading women. No one is arguing that an establishment like Hooters isn't commercializing sexuality, only whether or not that is derogatory to women. I argue that it isn't. While I won't say it is the one true path, one could easily argue that it empowers women more so than feeling the need to hide the fact that women are sexual creatures as much as any one else.
Brandon Christmann July 09, 2012 at 08:56 PM
Apparently these comments have a text limit. My point is not that women should show their bodies off at every turn. It's that women can empower or degrade themselves via multiple paths, and the choice of how they do it is up to that woman. Using their body as a means to continue having a home is not necessarily in any way degrading. It's not a woman saying 'I am merely a sex object' more than any other job says 'I am only my job.' She clocks out for the evening and is just any other college student, or single mother, or what have you that needed to pay the bills.
Wendy July 10, 2012 at 03:44 PM
I probably woudn't go there either - As to those who think the girls work there by choice and are not degraded - prostitutes also work by choice and we think they are degraded. So, I won't go there for two reasons - one the way the women dress - and two...they don't have any vegan options.
Wendy July 10, 2012 at 03:45 PM
I do understand the women choosing to work there though - they probably get phenomenal tips....
pdf July 10, 2012 at 04:01 PM
Very good comment, Wendy. Thanks for helping put it into perspective.
pdf July 10, 2012 at 09:34 PM
Janette, No one is judging these women. It is just degrading and it's unfortunate that these women have to show off their breasts to earn "phenomenal tips." Quite the contrary.
Wendy July 10, 2012 at 09:49 PM
Janette, don't get your panties in a wad - None of us are judging the women - perhaps we are judging the owners - but certainly not the women. Did not infer the women were prostitutes - was only challenging your "choosing to work there" comment and that they "weren't slaves". Hooters is selling wings and sex! And yes, I totally support the girls choosing to work there - for me, I choose not to spend my $$ there and would hope my daughters never felt the need to work there.
pdf July 10, 2012 at 10:02 PM
Well said, Wendy. Well said. (I suppose some do not wish to "understand" your words. Oh, well.)
Nick Walden July 11, 2012 at 12:54 AM
Please refrain from making any personal attacks or inappropriate comments. Thank you
Pat Comstock July 11, 2012 at 02:53 AM
No, it couldn't have possibly been directed at you. Wecome to Janette Brown's message board: "You really need to all get you head out of your back side…" "Well bully for you…" "…a bitch is a bitch…" "I am sure you fall under her category also ..yes female dog !!!" "Stupid stupid stupid…" "…stupid bunch of sheep…" "…kiss my back side…" "People who voted for this are a bunch of stupid sheep...do not have a brain in their heads…" And a personal favorite: "People who judge are just insecure with themselves !!!" You're a trip, Brown.
Tom July 11, 2012 at 02:54 AM
Thanks for the laugh folks.....I've never been to a Hooters, but I hear they have great wings! As far as the way the women dress at Hooters (from the picture posted with the article) seems to me that they wear the same type of uniform as most servers do. But, the way I read the comments it almost seemed that the women were wearing bikini's.(Just think of the tips they would make then!) Myself, I'm proud of anyone working and paying their way in life and not looking for hand outs. My hats off to all hard working Americans! Welcome to the friendly city Hooters!
Graham Lower July 11, 2012 at 03:24 AM
Can you please specifically detail how it humiliates women. Yes, the name Hooters may be euphemism for breasts, and that breasts have sexual connotation. I don't think it inherently means that one (man or women) should be humiliated by it. And, given that you have likely not been in a Hooters, I am not sure that you or your husband is in an authoritative position to suggest if/how the environment may be degrading to women.
Graham Lower July 11, 2012 at 03:44 AM
Janette, without know specific circumstances, I don't think one can honestly say they made the choice; it is certainly possible that because of circumstance and lack of other options someone may have felt they had no other option. That being said, from my (albeit limited) experience, I would argue that it would be an isolated case, versus a systemic problem. I completely agree that one has the choice to patronize or not patronize, just like one had the choice to be judgmental and attempt to force their, possibly limited, view of the world upon others or not. And remember Janette, just because you think someone is a judgmental, small minded prude who seems to lack the basic empathy gene to make any attempt to see something from another's point of view, only you can choose how you respond, not how someone else does.
Graham Lower July 11, 2012 at 04:26 AM
I'm not sure the the suggested comparison between prostitution and working at Hooters is fair. There are numerous accounts from former prostitutes that document their feeling that the choice, if you wish to frame it as such, was between prostitution and serious harm and/or death. I think that one could find few, if any, cases where a man (yes, men do work at Hooters) or woman felt their pimp would kill them if they didn't put on the orange shorts. In making the comparison, however, I think you minimize the trails and horrors that some women experience as a prostitute, which I cannot support. I'm not sure how a pimp sodomizing his "whore" to exercise dominance and control, or other forms of degradation, has any relevance in a woman feels wearing clothes that do not obscure form. Furthermore, I think you trivialize the intelligence, beliefs and decisions that employees who do choose to work there make. I think you'd more genuine in calling them "idiots" directly (or, if you prefer I include your reply, "greedy idiots") then in the back handed way you do now.
Pat Comstock July 11, 2012 at 05:01 PM
"I do not intend on commenting on the patch any more...as I see by the overwhelming response I am not welcome." What overwhelming response are you referring to? You're not attempting to blame others, are you? I, and assumed others, usually enjoy reading your expressed "passion," and you have the same right to comment as anyone else. Yet it's not unreasonable for Patch to expect respectful comment, and to enforce its "Our Terms of Use" whenever any of us fail to be respectful of others. Specifically this portion: Acceptable Use While we encourage people to be honest and post what’s on their mind, communities thrive when people care about each other, and as such, Patch expects all of its users to be respectful of others. This means that whether you are being complimentary or critical, whether you are agreeing or disagreeing with the subject of an article or another user’s comment, you should act in a civil manner and refrain from personal attacks – after all, these are your neighbors. .
Janette Brown July 11, 2012 at 06:33 PM
Sally and Pam ....I said I was sorry....I really dont think you have beat me on the head enough already and unless you want me to bring a slander suit against you for public slander I suggest you just say ok...enough is enough and let it go... You know I never said people did not have the right to have an opinion its just I did not agree....and really are either of you so free of never making a mistake you are in a position to judge anyone? I really think I was abused here also . Now I suggest everyone get off my case. Even though I said I was sorry my opinions have not changed and you can not bully me into changing them ....I was sorry if what I said offended but at least I am honest. So again DROP IT or ms. Comstock and ms. Sally you will be hearing from my attorney. Got it !!!!!

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